Trader Information
& Traders site map
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News:
There's
a great
new Dylan photo cube CD tray in the store
Warning to CD-r collectors:
Trader Ted Whitten warns about the defective tray style
pictured here
that is destroying his discs.
The '2 CD' Cases are sold by CompUSA.
Click the tray to learn more from Ted.
I just made a trade, and I want to leave a feedback for the
trader
Feedback is a great way for traders to build a good reputation
within
the community.
Be sure to leave feedback whenever you make a trade.
You do not have to be a bobsboots listed trader to leave
feedback.
If you do have a trader page, let us know your trader name. That way,
we can link your comments to your trade page. If you don't have a trade
page, or fail to inform us, we will link your comments to your email
address.
This is simply so other traders can get in touch with you, if needed.
We
will not post 'anonymous' comments, but if you are leery about your
comment
being linked to your page, let us know. We will keep the link info on
you,
but won't 'turn the link on'.
All you have to do is to tell us the trader's
name, and
write your comments about the trade in an e-mail
to us.
However, it would help us out if you would go to the trader's page,
and copy the URL in the locator window (the
place
where you type where you want to go on the internet. It will begin with
"http"). If you can send this in the email, it makes our work a little
easier.
Here are some other websites that might
be helpful
to traders:
Visit
the CDR artwork link website
Post
trader messages at Dylantree.com
The Polygizmo
Web J-Card™ created by Richard Batey &
Joe Cliburn allows
the user to custom
make
their own simple CD jewel or norelco box cassette cover
This is my first time to visit the traders section on your
site.
Welcome! Here are some FAQ's
that may be of help to you.
If you have further questions, feel free to
e-mail
them to us.
Q: Can I trade with bobsboots.com?
A: No. We are not traders,
distributors,
or trees for any item.
After your initial trade, you must deal directly with our members for
all trading.
We are only a reference library to use to check to compare the various
commercial Dylan boots in existence.
We also host the pages of individuals who do trade.
Q: Why do you only list commercial boots?
A: Many Reasons. A commercial boot
is
guaranteed to have the same sonic and aesthetic qualities as are listed
on our pages from one disc to the next. Since they are all glass
mastered
at the same time from the same press, and the covers printed in a
similar
fashion, you are guaranteed to get what you bargain for with a
commercial
boot. This is not true with a CD-r.
Intentional Alteration
The artwork should be obvious. It simply cannot be reproduced in
commercial
quality. What's less obvious is the fact that the CD-r
sound quality might be far from that of a commercial release. There
are,
again, several reasons for this. While it is true that a CD-r
has no appreciative sonic loss from that of it's source, there are more
things to consider. The fact is, CD-r's are
created
(or burnt) one at a time. Each time one is burnt, there is the
possibility
of alteration. Firstly, you have to consider intentional alteration.
There
are many, many traders who get tapes or CD-rs,
and
have the ability and means to EQ them. (EQ
refers to altering individual frequency bands of the music to create a
different sound). Far from being malicious, the trader is changing the
music to enhance it to his taste. It might be to add a little bass, or
it might be to remove a touch of white noise (tape hiss). The problem
is,
what sounds perfect to him, might not be to your liking at all.
Even if you don't alter the sound, what about the person who passed on
the CD-r to you? and before them? Truth is, you
have
no way of knowing how many times that the CD-r
you
are listening to has been changed from the original source.
Original Source - Read This, and
Help
Reform All Future Trades-
Speaking of original source, that's the next thing to consider. There
is rarely only one original source for a particular venue. The original
source refers to the actual tape made of the event. There could be two,
three, four, or ten individuals who made an original tape. All will be
slightly (or vastly) different from one another. Which one are you
listening
to? There is no way of knowing. Bobsboots
has long been an advocate of reformation in this area. It would be a
simple
thing to correct. If (and only if) the source is a glass master, the CD-r
should go by the name of that particular commercial boot. If not, the
original
taper could name his tape (using his name, nickname, etc.). Let's
assume his nickname for the 1999 Tramps show is
"Babyface".
The tape should circulate as "7/26/99 babyface".
Down
the road, if "JoJo" re-EQ's the tape, the
resultant
tape should circulate as "7/26/99
babyface/JoJo".
With this simple chain of documentation that could be put into place
immediately,
all of the guess work and cross comparison could be eliminated.
Everyone
would always know exactly what they have; and always have a basis to
compare
to. While far beyond the scope of bobsboots,
a web site could then easily be created to document the various
recordings.
Intentional Damage
There are traders that are more concerned
with
cost and availability of blank discs than they are with true and
accurate
reproduction of the material. This can lead to faulty recordings, and
songs
that have been edited or cut to accommodate a shorter CD-r
length. Many traders like to put additional items on the disc, such as
the artwork for the set. It's easy to see, albeit a difficult thing to
comprehend, that in this world that we live in today, there is also
that
element that receives a thrill from introducing a more harmful
addition,
such as a virus.
Unintentional Damage
On top of all of the above variables, there is the problem of
unintentional
damage. This could be from an inexperienced trader recording track at
once
(this leaves a gap between the songs), or it could be digital transfer
noise that, at times, can happen to anyone. As most people use
computers
to create their discs, there is also the possibility of unintentional
virus
infection. Where did the problem come from? The trader who sent the CD-r?
The one before her? The one before him? More often than not, there is
no
way of knowing.
Too Many Discs
Now we come to the biggest reason as to why we don't include CD-rs.
With the advent of the easily affordable CD/RW,
anyone
with a PC or MAC can
now be a
manufacturer. There are multiple millions of small quantity fan
projects
that would be an absolute impossibility to document. These recordings
are
tantamount to home cassette recordings. There is not, nor will there
ever
be, a monetary value attached to them.
Question Conclusion
This is by no means a diatribe against CD-r
recording
or trading. We are simply answering as to why it cannot be documented.
And,... while we enthusiastically endorse CD-r
recordings,
we absolutely detest pirate recordings; and
discourage all traders from this harmful practice. No true fan
of
an artist will ever create or trade a pirated recording.
Q: Do I need to join to trade?
A: No. A non-member may contact any
trader
at any time.
Q: Then why should I join?
A: There are a lot of bad traders
out
there. The best, most honest traders flock to bobsboots.
If a trader is willing to post their page on our site, you can feel
confident
that they will not rip you off. Any trader, member or not, who
complains
about a trader listed on bobsboots will
get
an immediate response. We will investigate, and mediate. If the trader
is found to be dishonest in the trade, he will receive a warning notice
on his page to be wary of him. If a trader receives more than 1
complaint,
she might be removed entirely from the traders section, and placed on
the
permanent Bad Trader list. Conversely, if you contact one of our
traders
out of the blue, they will know nothing about you. To be able to tell
them
that you are a member at bobsboots will
give
them confidence that you are a good trader.
Q: How do I know that I can trust a trader
who is not listed with bobsboots.com?
A: This question is answered in
detail on the Safe Trader
page. Click here
to read. Simply close the new window when you are through
reading. You will not loose this page.
Q: How are trades done?
A: Each trade is handled one on one,
on
an individual basis, with you and the trader. Each trader makes their
own
rules. We have no rules or guidelines that a trader must follow, other
than honesty. If you don't like a particular trader's rules, find
another.
There are hundreds!
Q: OK! so how do I get started. I want
to make
a trade!
A: Go to the Trader's
Index. From there, click the button of the medium that you desire
to
trade (CD-r, cassette, etc.). Click the link for
the
country with which you would like to trade. Under the country, you will
find the list of names of the individual members from that country.
Choose
a name, and you will link to that individual's page. From there, you
can
read the traders rules, find out how to get their trade list, find
their
e-mail address, etc. You contact them via their e-mail link, and
between
the two of you; set up a private trade.
PS NOTE: To contact a
trader, use
the "e-mail me" link in the center
of their page. Do not use the "webmaster" link at the top right header
of the page, as that is for e-mailing the webmaster. If you get an auto
response from the webmaster, you've used the wrong link!
Q: Sounds great! I want to join as a
trader! How
much does it cost? How do I do it?
A: There is no charge. To
join click here.
Can I add a Link for a particular title that I'm looking
for to my
Wants List?
Sure!
And it's simple to do. If there is a particular title featured
on bobsboots
that you would like to own, go to that title. Copy the URL
in the locator window (the place where you type where you want to go on
the internet. It will begin with "http"). Copy it and paste it into an e-mail
to us. Tell us your trader name, and ask us to add this title to your
want
list. You can list the title as well, if you would like, so that we
will
have a double confirmation of the target item... but all we need
is the URL. You may link to as many titles or
items
as you want using this method. Let us know when you are no longer
searching
for a title, and we'll remove the link for you. Remember, every request
is done with a simple, plain english email to the webmaster.
Change of email address:
Members:
It is vital that you inform us of any change in your email
address!
If you have changed emails, and failed to inform us, you could
lose
your trade page!
If a trade page is lost due to a non working email and URL
address,
it cannot be reestablished.
To rejoin in the future, you must join as a new member. All
previous membership
status will be lost.
How do I make changes to my trade page?
As with the way you submitted your original form, everything
is done
with an e-mail to the
webmaster.
If you joined after March 2001, the original
form
that you submitted is hidden on your Traders page. To view the form,
point
your mouse under (not on) the 'Other Artists' Link on your page. While
holding down a click, drag your mouse down the page a few inches. The
form
will be revealed. You can copy the form and resubmit changes as often
as
you wish. Please only submit the changed information, and not the
entire
form. You will get an auto response to insure that your change has
arrived
to us. You will get another response (usually within 24
hours) when your changes are online. Be sure to tell us your trader
name
rather than your proper name, as that is how we know you. There is no need
to copy the information from your page if you don't want to.
Simply
send us an e-mail to tell
us what changes you want. It's all very informal. If you make a
mistake,
send it again. You can change info as often as you desire.
Would you like to remove your page from our site?
We hate to see you go! Feel free to come back at anytime.
If you are a new trader, there will be a two week wait for
removal so
that members can have pending trade notice.
To remove your page, read from the three choices below, then
follow
the instructions.
You have three choices for removing your page.
1) EMAIL REMOVE
This leaves your page, and the links to it intact, but removes the
email and URL link to you. Patrons will just
get a
brief message
that you are not trading at this time. You can then add your email
link back to your page at any point in the future. With this
option, you can then choose one of the below options in the future
as well, by sending us another email.
2) LINK REMOVE
This removes your name from the list of traders, and all other links
to your page; so that no one is able to find it. Your page
becomes 'hidden' from site patrons, but remains on the web. You can
then use your page privately, if you desire, with the URL
that we will send you. Only those whom you choose to email the URL
to will have access to it. Even though it is private, we will still
update
the page for you at any point. You can add your name back to the list
at
any point in the future, and your page will
again be viewable. You can also choose to remove the page entirely
at any point in the future.
3) PAGE REMOVE
This is the "FULL DELETE" option. This removes not only your name and
links to it, but your page as well. No information will be retained on
you. This option is a complete deletion, and is a non reversible
removal
of your page. To join again in the future, you must resubmit all info
as
you did originally. You will lose all membership status
standings, and will start out as a new member upon rejoining.
To be removed, you must email us from the address that is
linked on
your Trader Page. (Don't email from a friend's address or
a second email address that you might have). Click the appropriate
link below to send an email. If you can't use the link, copy and paste
one of the below messages in an e-mail to the webmaster. (BE
SURE TO CHOOSE THE CORRECT ONE!!!!). Copy everything in
the
box, including the header. Fill in your trader name as it
appears
at the top of your trade page. For the subject of the email, use the
appropriate
header: EMAIL,
LINK, or
PAGE
REMOVE. If the links below work
for
you, email will create automatically
Click
here for e-mail remove
If this link doesn't
work, copy
and paste the following. Click below to email it.
EMAIL REMOVE
My Trader name
is: (name)
Dear
Webmaster: Thank you for hosting my page, but I can't trade at this
time
Please delete the email and onlinelist links from my
page,
so that traders will temporarily not be able to contact me. I'll resend
you an email addres when I am ready to trade again.
Thank
you, (name)
e-mail
only above instruction here
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OR:
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Click
here for link remove
If this link doesn't
work, copy
and paste the following. Click below to email it.
LINK REMOVE
My Trader name
is: (name)
Dear
Webmaster: Thank you for hosting my page, but I no longer desire for
traders
that are unknown to me to find it. Please delete the index link to my
page,
and send me the URL so that I can use the page privately.
Thank
you, (name)
e-mail
only above instruction here
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OR:
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Click
here for page remove
If this link doesn't
work, copy
and paste the following. Click below to email it.
PAGE REMOVE
My Trader name
is: (name)
Dear
Webmaster: Thank you for hosting my page, but I no longer desire it to
be on the internet. Please delete my entire page. I understand that I
will
have to submit all new information to you to be able to rejoin, and
will
lose member status.
Thank
you, (name)
e-mail
only above instruction here
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